Chad Rubin 5:00
thank you so much. I’m excited to be here. What an intro.
Rolando Rosas 5:03
Awesome. Hey, Chad, we are so glad to have you. Let me give you a proper introduction. Thank you for coming on Chad. You know, I brought you here for a bunch of questions that I wanted to ask you. But I want to jump right into tech because this whole show is about tech. So I want to ask you, what tech Are you geeking out on right now?
Chad Rubin 5:25
That’s a great question. So after selling Skubana, we were using a lot of different software’s. And when you’re starting over from scratch, you start scratching your head and thinking, How do I want to do things differently? And so we made a transition from a lot of these like old school what I call like maybe web one dot o technologies to web 1.1 technologies in the software world that are more nimble, more agile, less bloated. So an example would be Pipedrive. Right? I used to use Salesforce now I’m using Pipedrive sales CRM software for internal wikis, for example, I used to use Confluence. And now I’m using notion as it would
Rolando Rosas 6:07
you like notion of hearing more movies and I love notion. A lot of people are singing the praises of that software.
Chad Rubin 6:13
Yeah, yeah, it’s super easy. It’s not clunky, anyone can manage it. And I have an app on my phone wonderful. Instead of JIRA for Sprint’s we’re using something called linear. So I’m like moving in a direction where I’m like, anti bloated tech, and more into agile, easy, fast paced technology that’s going to accelerate my momentum in my new business.
Rolando Rosas 6:40
Love it. Love it, man. Those are some awesome nuggets Profasee. That’s your newest venture. And you didn’t wait very long. From going to Skuvana to now Profasee of somebody like yourself that doesn’t sit back, he’s probably I know you’re not going to sit back and just sit on the beach there in South Florida. But tell me, Chad, what’s the need out there? Why another SaaS platform? There’s so many of them. What’s the problem that you’re trying to solve at Profasee?
Chad Rubin 7:09
Yeah. And I’ll talk about my reset after I sold my business and the time I took off. But so I started digging back into my econ business Think Crucial, and started realizing that we are under a capital crunch, right cashflow crunch, margins were being crunched. And I was watching everybody speaking on the circuit, and all the things that they were sharing really weren’t working. Like I noticed there are some serious problems, and I would try to make those problems better. And I made every mistake. And then finally, wait, why is no one touching pricing right isn’t pricing, what drives EBITDA? Da, and the top line drives down your bottom line. So I realized that there was nobody that was taking an AI data science approach to properly and dynamically changing pricing. So think of Uber surge pricing for Amazon brands. Yep. So we had this aha moment.
Rolando Rosas 7:58
So for those that don’t know, Uber will essentially change their price throughout the day, depending on demand and location, right?
Chad Rubin 8:06
Yep. Exactly. So I was like, Okay, well, Amazon changes price two and a half million times a day. Uber has. Yeah, Uber has surge pricing. Airbnb has smart pricing, global hedge funds are using dynamic pricing. But why don’t Amazon brands, which is the third party marketplace on Amazon, why don’t they have dynamically changing pricing to optimize every penny of profit? Yeah, so I scratch my head, did research and I was like, holy smokes, and I started using it for my own business. And then now we brought on clients and we went live and I’ve old data science team, it’s giving Amazon brands the same superpower that these large players have in the tech world.
Rolando Rosas 8:45
So it’s basically you’re bringing a capability that the big guys that actually the really big guys have, and they’ve been using it for years. Now applying that to Amazon, where there’s a lot of medium sized players that probably using this type of capability.
Chad Rubin 9:02
Yeah, I think that just pricing shouldn’t be static, right should be dynamic, especially in a fast driven marketplace like Amazon. And so there’s just a lot of room to optimize for profitability at different times of the day.
Rolando Rosas 9:14
Now let me ask you this because there gonna be a lot of folks that are listening to this and some that are watching this. The same Chad already have a reprice, er What are you talking about? This just sounds like more the same just put in a rule if that and then this what’s the difference here between what you’re offering? I know you touched on AI a little bit and you’re saying that you also taking in patterns and searches so it sounds like you’ve got something built in with keywords and what people are searching at the same time marrying that with prices I got that right or wrong or
Chad Rubin 9:44
no you got it right. A few things. I’m Macro level the word repricer has been around for a long time. But those reprice errs lived and died by something called the buy box on Amazon. They’re really meant for resellers competing to win the buy box in a listing. Yeah I believe the world has changed. In fact, now I think roughly 70 80% of Amazon’s marketplace is actually private label brands. So they don’t live and die by the buy box. They live and die by the search engine ranking page on Amazon. Okay. And so if your range 123 are on first page of Amazon, how do you know that your price up optimally? How do you know that you’re not leaving money on the table? And so on top of that, there’s so many different factors that are about pricing on Amazon that come in that you can just use simple human logic if this then this. So we’re pulling in seasonality, holidays, inflation on a micro level, the competitive landscape, your keywords that you’re ranking for your competitors, keywords that they’re ranking for their price, their BSR, all the Amazon characteristics anyway, a boatload of stuff we pull in to pinpoint the perfect price at every specific moment. And it’s not a simple if then statement.
Rolando Rosas 10:55
Wow. Well, so this sounds like it’s just some of that next level stuff because we use a repricer. And I know it doesn’t do that. And it’s one of the ones I won’t say who it is, but this sounds way beyond just simple. if then statements and rules about the BuyBox.
Chad Rubin 11:12
Totally, it is there’s nothing out there that exists right in my opinion, riches are in the niches. So I very it’s a subset of a subset of a market but it’s it’s the beautiful space and nobody’s been able to tackle it because it’s such a delicious problem.
Rolando Rosas 11:26
It’s hard. It can be simple. Right? You know, there was other these reprisals we’d be doing it No.
Chad Rubin 11:32
Like I tell my son I say Rubin’s do hard things.
Dave Kelly 11:35
Well, listen, we would have loved to have something like Profasee at the beginning of the pandemic on Amazon, because if so many buyers were just heavy on Amazon looking for products, we do private label, that would have been interesting tool, we probably could have made some extra money. If we were working with your solution at that time.
Chad Rubin 11:54
Every passing moment is a chance turn it all around, you still can come on Profasee.
Rolando Rosas 11:58
I’m down, I’m down. I’m definitely going to be looking at that. Because you know what the truth is? Amazon is complex, right? And it is not what it was before the pandemic. It’s not what it was five years before the pandemic, it’s certainly not what it was 10 years ago, where you could literally throw up a listing. And magically, you’d start getting sales, just by one or two images, just whatever Title Bullets, maybe a haphazard attempt at keywords, it is totally not. As a matter of fact, I’ve saw a post in the Facebook group that I belong to just recently where it said that this person did all of these things to check them all off. And they still saw a decline in sales. None of them included anything about what you just talked about intelligent repricing, but you could still do a lot of the things and still see sales go down because there’s still a bunch of areas that you’ve got to master on Amazon, in order to keep growing and staying sustainably on their platform. And this where you can squeeze more profits, which is the number one killer to a lot of companies on Amazon, his margin seems to preserve some of those margins.
Chad Rubin 13:07
I think that came up for me when you share that was like if you think about Bobby Flay, he writes his cookbooks and he shares his recipes with the world. And he does that. Because he knows that nobody can make a better burger than he can write even though he shares his burger recipes, like there is there’s a science to it. But there’s also an art. And it’s the same thing on Amazon. Same thing when you’re producing an amazing podcast like this, right? It’s the same thing when you’re producing the best price.
Rolando Rosas 13:32
Indeed, indeed, I want to step back a little bit, roll it back in and we heavy on the Profasee stuff. I want to roll it back a little bit about your road to Profasee.
Dave Kelly 13:40
You know, I definitely want to learn more about Profasee. But you’ve managed and you’ve built and created and sold successful companies and we’re interested to know about the emotions that you have. And then when do you realize that it’s time to let that company go slick, but the last company that you sold was Skubana? How do you emotionally detach yourself from them? What was that like to you?
Chad Rubin 14:03
It’s incredibly hard to start something to operate it and then to eventually sell it. And we’re talking about a very small percentage of the population ever make it to that point. And I built a lot of my life around working with the CMP a lot of the people who started Skubana ended at Skubana with me, and it terrific but also when we went through the sale process at the end. Those people stayed on and I departed there after a lot of emotions for me, right? A lot of my heart and love and soul went into building this company and suddenly it was no longer there. So I took some time I wish I sold in April of 21 and I started prophecy in December I resigned from Skubana in October of 21. So what does that eight months?
Rolando Rosas 14:47
April Yeah,
Chad Rubin 14:49
eight months roughly. It was it was definitely a different flow once the company was acquired me specifically to and I call it the great reset and I took a lot of time to work on myself. So I became the CEO of me, which is really special. I was able to I can either just go right into building something, because you know, as Rolando mentioned, he knows my personality and I can sit still. Or I can not sit still, but I can work on something where I’m gonna come out. Like I, if I started working on something, I wouldn’t come out a better version 2.0 of myself. I have a lot of bugs. We all have bugs. Right? And how do I sensually maybe do some deep fragmenting and work on those bug fixes so I can come out better. So I started working on myself and I started hiring a personal coach, spiritual coach. I did a lot of reading, I hired a DJ coach, ask coach and go on and on about all these different coaches. They said,
Rolando Rosas 15:45
What about the DJ? Oh, yeah, ask you about that. So that’s still something you’re doing. I know, I remember before you even sold subarna. You said I’m taking up DJing. Class. Yes. And that was just right before the
Chad Rubin 15:55
No, I haven’t been after I started Profasee. I had to start letting go of things. I let go of the chest Roach and let go of the DJ coach. And it’s something I need to get back into because I actually love it and music lights me up. Like when I joined this podcast, I heard music. And I was just like, I was rocking and rolling. I was like dancing. I was like, wait, I leave on my Spotify.
Rolando Rosas 16:14
We want to keep you motivated while we do the whole podcast.
Chad Rubin 16:18
Yeah, so I just was in Jamaica for a week. And I went to a wedding on Saturday. And I was just hanging out with a DJ the whole time we were sharing notes. We were going back and forth. And some more of a bedroom DJ, right. Like, I do it. I performed twice, live for other people. But really, I spend time just like having fun in my garage.
Rolando Rosas 16:37
Nice, nice. It’s been floating around in my head, especially with my little one He loves in the morning when we put on some music and start working out and he gets into it like boy, he inspires me because he’s really into and so I’d love to maybe put some turntables mini turntables in dab a little bit that brings me back to my college years when I dabbled into that. But ya know, it sounds like you did, you’d left Skubana you said, Hey, I need to work on myself. And I think a lot of people have hit the reset button, whether they sold the business or deciding you know what, it’s time to reevaluate my priorities. A lot of people have been doing that the last two and a half years. And it sounds very normal thing to do. I know I’ve been doing that as well. I like work. I like some of the things that it gives me. But I don’t want to be bound doing and be my entire life.
Chad Rubin 17:27
Yes, I think COVID really was that impetus for people to shift perspective around where they’re spending their time? The kind of people they want to surround themselves with when working for, right, there’s this great resignation that happened during this time. And yeah, so I think it’s been a whole boatload of people that have like, I think in Florida now, like when we used to hang Rolando, I was in New York, like, my life has changed dramatically over through this period.
Rolando Rosas 17:52
Still remember the first time we met it was in New York. And it was I think the your very first show that you put together in New York. And did you had a good time, when we met, I got to meet a lot of people that I had not ever met with and experienced. And so that was a really cool experience. And speaking of experiences, one of the reasons that I coined down a little bit memory lane, so I want to reel you back in to the time when you’re pitching to investors and raising money. A lot of folks like you said they may not have an opportunity to know what that’s like. But I think a lot of people have their impression of pitching to investors like Shark Tank, is that a true depiction of you’re sitting in front of some people? And you know, they’re making a quick decision? Or is it completely different? It’s it or is it worse than what we’re seeing on Shark Tank? When you’re pitching to investors trying to raise money?
Chad Rubin 18:42
It’s probably a little less dramatic, but there’s definitely been some pitches that I’ve been in with investors that were like Shark Tank. In fact, I vividly remember again, it’s it’s a great question, by the way, I was in an investor meeting. I’m not gonna say his name. He’s a prominent investor in New York. And I’m pitching him and he said, he just stopped me and he said, How are you going to make me rich? And I was like, wow, that is an amazing question. And now you and I kind of lead with that now, especially if I’m looking at making investments or putting together a deck for Profasee raise 2.3 million in December. Yeah. So I think it’s a great question. So to answer your question directly, it’s like yes, there are examples I have in my head that relate very much so to Shark Tank.
Rolando Rosas 19:37
Is it that cutthroat you said something what Kevin O’Leary says on Shark Tank I love money and what your are you what are you going to do to make me money so he puts it out there like that this that clear cut. I want to know Oh, my money’s coming back to me,
Chad Rubin 19:53
but that’s his style, right? If you look at Lori, for example, or Robert Yep, they’re alive with I think they’re Robert number being Canadian. He’s got like a softer side to him. He’s very understanding. He’s very empathetic. And he will say, Hey, I think you should keep going, or do you know, this is just not for me. Whereas Kevin will be like, Hey, you’re gonna die.
Rolando Rosas 20:13
Take it, take it out, get to me seven shoot it.
Chad Rubin 20:16
Exactly. I think it’s it exposes personality traits. And the kind of investor that you want to have on your team is very important. And so the same way they’re interviewing me, right? I’m also interviewing them.
Rolando Rosas 20:33
Of course. So you walk away from so because there are people on Shark Tank that also walk away and say, I don’t like that offer, really skimmed through too much in my company. I don’t like a royalty, or I don’t envision going into retail, I want to stay b2b, or whatever the case. But I see a lot of folks that are going they’re absolutely desperate and take the deal whether it makes sense for them or not.
Chad Rubin 20:53
Yeah, I think it depends on your position of strength. Right? Have you done this before? Are you second, third, fourth time founders at product business as a software business? How large is the total available market that you’re approaching and encroaching on? I think all of this goes in to or is all impacted in the decision making process?
Dave Kelly 21:10
Yeah, I’d like to talk about Amazon to see what you see coming from Amazon. So we’re in a new stage of the evolution of amazon.com. What do you predict will happen to brands that aren’t keeping up with the complexities of selling on that platform?
Chad Rubin 21:27
So I actually wrote a whole LinkedIn post. I’ve been pretty active on LinkedIn these days. And I wrote a whole post around this. And so I think it hasn’t ever been worse than this to sell in the ecommerce world. Right? There’s a lot of struggles that are happening. And by the way, I’m not alone. Like I shared my ecommerce business was struggling when I first started Profasee, you have 100 plus seller aggregators that bought companies that have raised over $15 billion. I’m sure you’ve seen the headlines, right? All these distress aggregators are making layoffs, right? They’re halting acquisitions,
Rolando Rosas 21:58
you, the big ones, the rest of the huge.
Chad Rubin 22:01
And a lot of it is because of rising labor costs, supply chain costs, PPC, inflation, sourcing, inflation, raw material, inflation, fulfillment, flaming, you name it, everything’s just getting more and more expensive. And, Dave, I think you mentioned, people are less spending less time like, during the pandemic, everyone’s drying Amazon. And there’s been a little bit of a halting of what’s shift of spin back to retail and mortar stores? And so like, is everyone going to survive? No. But I think many will, if they play their cards, right. And I believe that the way that the wave of the future on Amazon has gotten so complex, is that brands need to hop on the algorithm bandwagon, so to speak. And what that means the rise of the algorithm for brands is, there’s a shift of turning data into decisions. And I’ll take your business to new heights. And these brands are going to need to focus on AI, from an inventory perspective, from an advertising perspective, and from a pricing perspective, to meet EBITDA dot profit forecasts. And
Rolando Rosas 23:17
you think that also applies for those sellers that are starting on the platform. Because you know, what you’re saying, have some folks are going to get them like, okay, I get that. And those are gonna be some of the more savvy Amazon players. But what about those folks that are new to the platform? And I think I may have mentioned this to you, I think that years ago, and liking Amazon to Google, years ago, if you’re a business owner, or a media manager, you can manage Google yourself. That’s not the case anymore. You have to be a specialist that completely understands how Google works Google Analytics and how to execute with the information that’s on it’s extremely complex, not what it used to be. Amazon’s moving in that direction. Amazon has hired a lot of ex Googlers put them in positions for the analytics team algorithm teams. And Amazon is heading in that direction, where it’s going to be even more complex. How does the average brand, stay current, stay viable with things getting a do they need to build out a team? Obviously, you talked about a tool like you have, like Profasee, it’s competitive. It’s cutthroat, Amazon support. There’s no secret out there. I’m sorry to say this Amazon Seller Support is not up to par All of these things that on a daily day, I think you told me, you know, I like not having to put out fire when you left give on. And that stuck with me. That’s something if you are deep in Amazon, and you’re successful, you’re still experiencing fires, almost on a regular basis. Yeah, just because that’s the territory. So how do you navigate that? How do you manage that?
Chad Rubin 23:17
I think that’s a very complex and it’s a as I call it, pressure question.
Rolando Rosas 24:54
There’s no wrong answer.
Chad Rubin 24:55
So if you’re if you’re the average Joe starting out is different from a Shopify store. ran that’s moving and bracing Amazon.
Rolando Rosas 25:03
Absolutely. This is a tragic move there on this part of Shopify versus somebody that’s selling candles on Amazon.
Chad Rubin 25:10
So are we talking about the like an average Joe?
Rolando Rosas 25:13
Yeah, let’s say somebody that’s starting out. What’s the advice to the person that’s on Amazon? They’re making that shift from being an employee to their side hustle, and they realize the side hustles grow? Yeah. And geez, everybody loves my, my mugs with my face on it. Here’s one of them is like,
Chad Rubin 25:29
I really believe that. Amazon just oversaturated at this point, right. And it’s not just by American sellers. It’s by Chinese sellers who have a massive competitive advantage. Many of them are vertically integrated. They’re not paying income taxes and United States. They’re not paying sales tax nexus. They’re not. Their shipping rates are better. It costs less to ship from China to America than from New Jersey to Delaware. Crazy. Crazy. So it is what do I tell this person? First of all, I get them ready. I get them primed? Right. Sign Amazon as hard as F. Right? Yeah. So indeed, if you’re just starting out, you’re thinking about Babe Ruth. Right? He was a legend, right. Willie Mays legend. The homerun rate of those people were, let’s just say it was, let’s just say was anywhere from eight to 13%, you invest in 10 products, I believe one or two are going to be actual home runs. Right? That’s even one one out of 10. That’s a 10% homerun record. So like, I’m getting people I need to get ready, that you’re gonna be making mistakes, it’s hard as heck. And those mistakes Trump doing it correctly. Like, the more mistakes you make, the more you’re gonna know how to excel, absorb, grow, and be successful. Right? And then like, there’s other things I would say is like, I don’t think that you should go after a commoditized product. Like you need to have essentially some sort of what didn’t Beatty have a 10 crack commandments and a rap song, need to have some sort of commandments that dictate what criteria of what you need to be investing in, for example, invest in a product that is hard as heck,
Rolando Rosas 27:09
hold on a second. Chad, I hear a pro tip, let me give you a pro tip. For a pro tip. Awesome. The knowledge, Mr. Chad Rubin.
Chad Rubin 27:22
So pro tip would be invest in a product that is really hard. The harder the product, the better means that you’re gonna have less competitors, less copycats, less counterfeits. Right. So doing that research upfront. And figuring out the criteria that’s necessary to build a home run product is that much more important, that pay you dividends in the long term.
Rolando Rosas 27:52
So the ability to have it hard to copy and hard to replicate is really important. So that probably requires quite a bit of research before you jump on the platform instead of deciding. Like I said, my example. People love my social media presence. So I’m selling my mugs on Amazon, when you realize that there’s hundreds, if not 1000s of companies that are selling that on
Chad Rubin 28:11
Yeah, I mean, just search. Yeah, search toilet paper holders on Amazon, you have 2000 that come up. Wish it’s crazy. We so about by way, it’s not just more research, right? It’s more capital, right? Because you need to have the moat, the moat needs to happen in the inception and the genesis of your product creation.
Dave Kelly 28:29
This brings me back to a conversation that Rolando and I had at one point, he had said, If anyone tells you that selling on Amazon is easy, they’re either lying, or they’re trying to sell you something. And I appreciate your honesty, because it’s not a simple side hustle, that’s going to double your income. It takes a lot of work. And there’s a lot of people out there that are just saying, Oh, no, super easy. You can buy these at Alibaba, you can buy them for this, you can listen for that. And you’re rich overnight sleeping. And it’s just nice to hear that from someone else like yourself. That’s not the case. It’s tough.
Chad Rubin 29:07
If someone tells you it’s easy, you run for the hills. So I would say also, by the way, like, when you look at your competitive category, your niche that you’re going into reviews become a massive moat to write. So if someone if you’re going into, I don’t know, just pick a trite example, which would be like garlic presses. Like honey, first of all, there’s probably like 2500, garlic presses on Amazon. But those drug presses already have substantial amount of reviews, like very meaningful reviews. And so coming into that niche wouldn’t make a whole lot of sense. So I also I just one last thing, I think it’s super interesting that I’m really investing in business forward is I want to invest in products that get better over time. So if we just if we think about Profasee as an example, because we’re AI driven, the more time you’re using our platform, the AI learns it just like Facebook, or you do on Facebook, you’d like some Then you comment, you dwell on a video, it’s learning, it’s consuming. And it’s serving you more content to achieve the outcome that they want, which is more dopamine that they’re hitting as you spend time on the platform. So if you think about as a product, think about something like nest, right nest gets better over time and knows when you come in your house when you leave, right? What’s the optimal temperature that you sleep in, and it improves over time. So and by the way, these are hard challenges. These aren’t like easy things to figure out and just go on Alibaba and buy some and China, these are really thoughtful products that are taking this next level.
Rolando Rosas 30:36
And that’s those are the ones that are ended up being breakthroughs and creating that moat that you talked about. And it takes some time in order to develop those things. And sometimes it starts from an idea like you did with about four, well, what would make sense on Amazon, what would be some next level stuff, and some real thinking about it, I was thinking about where I’m at today. And how I got here. And I really attribute a good portion of that to your counsel, your advice to me years ago, you took me under your wing, you helped impart some of that next level information into my head, obviously, we were in two completely different categories. But I could take a lot of those learning lessons and apply those on Amazon. So much so that my first year I say this a lot to people my first year on Amazon, we only sold $10,000 on year number one, nothing that’s nothing like literally just burned money that year. But then after, after you imparted a lot of that wisdom and knowledge, I was able to accelerate what we do and fast forward. So one of the things First of all, deeply grateful for your your counsel and your advice. So that’s one thing I want to publicly say that I
Chad Rubin 31:50
You made my day. It’s very generous and title and I’m really happy that I’ve helped elevate your game and made an impact on you.
Rolando Rosas 31:59
Absolutely, absolutely. So thank you, I want to thank you for that. And but at the same time, I want to ask you in your rise and your road from where you were pre Crucial and and Skubana and prosper show and all that. Who are the people or influences or books that you would say this person really took me to the next level or you had some aha moments talking or engaging with people that you’ve met in the last couple of years that have taken you to where you’re at now.
Chad Rubin 32:27
So that’s there’s a lot of, yeah, shout outs here. I go over pressure question. Books, or is it people both? It could be both but the first book that kicked off everything for me was Tim Ferriss’ book, The 4-Hour Workweek, I think he wrote he wrote that a decade ago now. And that taught me like this entrepreneurial viewpoint on life number one. So I think I want to give a shout out to Tim Ferriss for that recently, like my passions and have evolved over time, Atomic Habits is a great book that I recently read Phil Knight, something called Shoe Dog, he’s the founder of Nike had a pretty massive impact on me constantly reading The Art of Gathering. It’s about greeting experiences, and how to facilitate experiences like I’m really into my my life’s passion is to elevate the human condition through holy moment experiences. And that is like, you can turn the average moment into a really lovely and beautiful experience that you’ll cherish forever. And so I think that was a great book that’s had an impact on me. So I and there’s like many people out there, I’ve been part of the journey. And those people are just a part of the tapestry to get me to the point today, right weaving that’s created where I am today. I mean, there’s so many people out there that I can shout and probably put
Rolando Rosas 33:50
a shout out anywhere like, like right now, I think of when you’re saying that, you know, popped in my head, there’s two people, it’s even before I started being enough to printer, they actually laid the groundwork, both of my coaches want my high school football coach, and my college coach, both of them, one of them said, you’re more than a football player, you’re a citizen, you’re a person, you’re a student, you’re a scholar, and you have to comport yourself like that, instead of just seeing yourself from the lens of football player. The other one said in high school, really, you have two words matter. What comes out of your mouth matters, people will judge you by what is coming out of your mouth. And those two things really laid the groundwork early on in my career. And then obviously, there was a bunch of people that came in after that and helped shape some of that John Mason, who was my first mentor at Philip Morris really helped me he gave me the push. He said you could be CEO here if you want. You stay around long enough. You could be the CEO. I was like, What? Are you serious? He’s like, Yeah, you’ve got the chops for it. And give me a lot of insights on how to really work within the game of corporate America. I’m sure you have some folks like that on your end
Chad Rubin 34:55
Yeah, I mean, I’m in this very small mastermind. through an organization called EO so I’ve been with the same mastermind for the past, let’s just say six years. And so they’ve had a pretty massive impact on me. I mentioned the spiritual coach and my great reset this guy, Oliver really crushed it for me. And I think it depends on like the problem. Like, I have different friends for different things, or I’ve got my Amazon friends or my software friends, I’ve got my people who have nothing to do with those things, but maybe they just are heart centered entrepreneurs. So I think maybe the crux of it is you have people for different parts of your life, like we have different parts of ourselves. And that becomes those parts become greater than the sum
Rolando Rosas 35:36
Mr. Chad Rubin joining us in person from Hollywood or Fort Lauderdale. I’m in Hollywood, Florida, Hollywood, Florida, baby. Yes, shout out to the south Florida connection there. I’m sure there’s actually quite a bit of Amazon people that have moved down there. Your boy, Adam strelley is down in Florida now. And there’s four or five others that are floating around in my brain. And he’s the did you know, I didn’t know this. But Adam strelley was on a Smithsonian show. Yeah. I just I texted him the other day about it. Here we go. And he wanted me to do this. I’m going to do this now. So Adam, I could not believe when I’m flipping through the channels. I’m watching the Smithsonian channel, and I see you on TV, doing history. He’s like a modern day Indiana Jones. And I love history. I’m a history buff. So he’s talking about the Sphinx and the pharaohs and I loved all that kind of stuff. So big props to Adam Australia. Not only he’s he a crypto guy, who probably one of the smarter guys I’ve met out there when it comes to this. But also a host on TV, Adam strelley, you get big products today.
Chad Rubin 36:45
And for context, Rolando spoke at this event that we put together called accelerate its Skubana. And I discovered Ms. Straley, Adam, Australia, he came up to me at Whole Foods and said, Are you Chad Rubin? And I said, depends on who’s asking. And so we became forever friends since that point. And then he ended up becoming the emcee at accelerate and crushed it.
Rolando Rosas 37:05
Yes, yes. Oh, he was terrific. Now in that event, I did help for one segment where he did something in the middle of the new crash to to thank you nice it, but he I told him, you’re like a pro at this. He said, We should hit the road and talking about who would bar mitzvahs and all that. Alright, let’s do it. But he ended up in doing a show, which is cool. I did not know that. So Adam, big props to you. I would love to see another show. I want to see more episodes, I ran out of binged. Right. So Chad, I want to thank you for coming on today. You’ve been such a wonderful sport. If folks want to know more about Chad Rubin and where he’s at and get in touch with you. Where can they go?
Chad Rubin 37:47
See they can find me on LinkedIn, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, my personal email address is chad@profasee.com. And I’m pretty active on all those channels. So feel free to email me connect. We’d love it.
Rolando Rosas 38:04
Yep, I’ve got it right here. So if you’re on LinkedIn, his Chad’s mug on LinkedIn. For those folks that are going to be watching this. He’s very active, inviting you to connect with him on LinkedIn, feel free to get a hold of him there. And for those folks that have been listening to this all the way to the end. We really have an enjoy Chad. conversation today talking about entrepreneurship. Dave, they will really enjoy that episode with Verne Harnish. It’d be a shame if they did not listen to what he had to say about Scaling Up a company and elevating the entrepreneur game as well. If you want to check out that episode, it’s available on circuitloops.com as well as the entire episode with Verne Harnish.
Chad Rubin 38:50
I just implemented Vernes l 10. Meeting internally. Oh, yeah. Yeah,
Rolando Rosas 38:54
he’s the man. He is the man and he had a lot of cool things to say. So. Yeah, Chad. I don’t know Chad, and Verne has a lot of similarities, right? They’ve we’ve interviewed them both,
Dave Kelly 39:04
I’d say so.
Rolando Rosas 39:06
Yeah, they’re both hard working smart individuals. They find I had a guy we did business with years ago from Israel. He says you got to find the how to dance between the raindrops. He’s both of them know how to do that dance between the raindrops. So Chad, thank you very much for coming on today. I really appreciate you dropping knowledge on What The Teck? today and we will see you next time, thank you.
Outro 39:34
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